Unknowns Are Scary - REMIX | Series 10.1 - Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

Episode 1

Unknowns Are Scary - REMIX | Series 10.1

Published on: 9th November, 2022

With more education, there's less fear.

  • A lot of times when it comes to finances is we don't even know what we don't know. (03:19)
  • When stocks sell down, though you have that other area of your portfolio, right? Bonds, fixed income, they are more conservative, they will help us balance out those losses. (05:28)
  • In the 2008 financial crisis and the 2020 pandemic, bonds did hold up considerably better than stocks. However, this time around, the reason for the losses were rising interest rates. (05:49)

Quote for the episode: Maybe now instead of saying "why is this happening to my portfolio", you can say, "I kind of get why this is now happening to my portfolio. (07:21)

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., and Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, an SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA/SIPC. TFS Securities, Inc., is located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.

Transcript
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Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s Family Finance

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podcast. The only podcast dedicated to making life more

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enjoyable for young families by hitting on the financial topics

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that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus

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from simply enjoying life.

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Hello and welcome to the next series here on the

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Enjoy More 30s Family Finance podcast, REMIX for Rising Rates.

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In 2022, there have been really significant declines across

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pretty much every major asset class through the end of

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October. With rates rising, interest rates rising

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significantly for the first time in really a long time, it can be

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a very unnerving experience for people that are dealing with it,

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which is pretty much everyone out there. This series is going

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to attempt though to help you with that. Going back and

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re-mixing a number of past episodes that I've presented to

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help you emotionally navigate these more turbulent times. Each

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week, I'll be re-mixing a different episode, bringing what

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I would say is probably a timeless concept into the focus

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of the present day situation. So as always, before I begin,

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please share and like, please leave reviews. I'd love to reach

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and help as many young families out there just like you.

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Today's first episode is re-mixing all the way back to

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the very beginning. Season one, episode one, Unknowns are Scary.

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When my son Noah, if you remember was just a couple of

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days old, we brought him home from the hospital. And we

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started to notice these little blistery bump type things around

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his diaper line. And you know, at first we just thought it was

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an irritation from the diaper. Babies have super, super

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sensitive skin. They're red and blotchy all of her when they're

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born. But after 2, 3, 4 started to pop up, we kind of started to

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realize that this is maybe something more than just diaper

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rash. We came to this realization during the night so

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we left a message for the pediatrician, because we wanted

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to go in and see them the next day. That night, though I could

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not sleep at all. I was tossing and turning, my mind just

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wouldn't shut off. It was wondering just what was wrong

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with him. You know, you go on the phone, you start looking up

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everything on the internet, and there's just a whole box of

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scary that pours out at you. And so it was a very, very difficult

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night. Now the next day, we get the appointment with the

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pediatrician. They have us come in and they diagnosed it as

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something called impetigo, which is a bacterial infection. And

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it's not a good infection to have by any means. But if you

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know you catch it early, you get a prescription Neosporin kind of

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a thing. And now you handle it. And this poor little boy who's

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just been born is great throughout the whole process, we

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have him laying on our laps, no shirt on, rubbing the ointment

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on him holding up his hand, so he can't touch it. And he's just

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sleeping there with his arms straight up in the air. So he

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was fantastic. But you know, once that night happened, I

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wasn't scared anymore. Not because the difficulty was over.

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It was it was still difficult, we still had to go through and

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get him back to better. However, I knew what I was dealing with,

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right? I knew the name of it and I knew the treatment that was

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required to have him be better. The same thing is true when it

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comes to personal finance.

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What you need to know is that the unknowns from a finance

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standpoint or a personal finance standpoint, they work in a lot

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of the same ways. So if you don't know where you are, and

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you don't know what you need to do to fix it, that's pretty

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scary, right? And that's true for anything across the board.

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And what makes it even worse. A lot of times when it comes to

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finances is we don't even know what we don't know. So Noah had

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a rash. It was a visual element. I could see that there was a

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problem. Finances don't always work that way. And if they do

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work that way, it's sometimes because it's got so late in

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dealing with the issue that now we're trying to play catch up.

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So when we see our accounts in the context of this year, you

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might have your accounts dropping 20, 25% or more,

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perhaps, depending on how you're allocated. It can be really

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scary. Like, why is this happening? I've heard words

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thrown around, like interest rates and inflation but that

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doesn't all of a sudden magically tells me what's going

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on and makes sense. Like, oh, okay, interest rates right now I

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get it now. I'm fine with my account dropping so

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significantly. So why don't we start off today with an

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explanation on how interest rates and inflation could

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possibly tie to what you may have seen in your investments?

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When inflation is too high, the government starts to get worried

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about that, you know, the economy could get a little out

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of control. They want it to grow, for sure but they want it

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to grow it more of a controled, let's say steady rate. They

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don't want the train, so to speak, to speed up too much and

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get going off the tracks. So what do they do when they say

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hey, inflation is too high, the economy's running too fast. What

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do we do? They raise interest rates. Why? Because it makes it

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more expensive for companies and individuals to borrow money. If

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it's more expensive to borrow money, they won't have as much

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money to spend. Think like if you go to the store and they

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offer you a credit card. If they give you 0% financing versus 10%

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financing, you're probably going to spend more if they offer you

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the 0% right? So less spending overall slows down the economy.

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So when interest rates go up, it's generally viewed as bad for

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the economy. I mean, they are doing it to slow down the

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economy, right? So that would make sense. The stock market

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then sees this information and says, hey, it's probably going

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to be harder for companies to borrow money to grow their

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businesses with these higher rates. That probably means

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profits won't be as high as we expected. And stocks may sell

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down like they have this year. When stocks sell down, though

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you have that other area of your portfolio, right? Bonds, fixed

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income, they are more conservative, they will help us

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balance out those losses. And that usually tends to be true;

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the bond part of your portfolio if you have one is not there to

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increase your returns. It's there to provide stability in

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the years where the stock market decreases.

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In the 2008 financial crisis and the 2020 pandemic, bonds did

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hold up considerably better than stocks. However, this time

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around, the reason for the losses were rising interest

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rates. They weren't a global pandemic, they weren't a

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financial crisis. This year, it was inflation and those rising

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interest rates. When rates go up, bonds go down. So if you

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think about it, they have this reverse relationship. If you

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personally owned a bond that had a 4% interest rate, and now

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interest rates go up and new bonds are offering 5%, Which one

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would you prefer; your 4% bond or the higher 5% bond? The 5%

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one, right? So when the rates go up, the 4% bond is now worth

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less. In 2022, then thus far, both the stock and the bond

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portions of most portfolios have been in decline, as there has

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been that lack of balance.

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So hopefully, you know, that helps a little bit in connecting

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the dots together for you, at least at a starting point in the

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series. Maybe at least makes you know a little bit more sense why

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when you hear inflation and interest rates, how those

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connect together, and how that may be connected to your

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portfolio, depending on how you have it put together. Does that

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make you feel better about seeing your accounts go down

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now? Nope, you know probably not. Just like me finding out

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that the name of Noah's infection was impetigo didn't

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instantly make me feel better. But at the same time, it was a

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little less scary for me now than when it was completely

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unknown to me. Maybe now instead of saying "why is this happening

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to my portfolio", you can say, "I kind of get why this is now

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happening to my portfolio."

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And next week's remix, Stocks Lead, Don't Follow, we are going

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to dive a little bit deeper into our perspective now and how to

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deal with it. While I can really only give specific advice for

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people to take with clients that I know as you know, I can't give

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advice to somebody's situation I don't specifically know any more

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than a doctor can prescribe a drug to a patient they've never

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met. What I can try to help with is the perspective element in

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the way that you're looking at this, across the broad spectrum

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of achieving your goals, right? Investments are there to help us

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achieve our goals, not just to have a big number on a piece of

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paper. So we want to remember that money is just that tool,

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these coins, these papers, these numbers that we see on our

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screen. Feeling that security, feeling that we're on the way to

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achieving our goals and happy experiences we want to have with

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our families. That is the real end game in all this and so

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that's where I'm going to try to help you.

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As always, please remember to review and share for others and

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if you need any help, don't hesitate in reaching out. I

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probably have helped someone just like you. Until next week.

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Thanks for joining me today and I look forward to connecting

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with you again soon.

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The conversations on this show are

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Joe's opinions and provided for general information purposes

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only. They do not constitute accounting, legal, tax, or other

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professional advice for your specific situation. You should

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always seek appropriate advice from a financial advisor,

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accountant, lawyer, or other professional before acting upon

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any content or information found here first. Joe is affiliated

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with New Horizons Wealth Management LLC, a branch office

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of TFS Securities, Inc., and TFS Advisory Services an SEC

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Registered Investment Advisor, Member FINRA/SIPC.

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About the Podcast

Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance
Family Finance for Young Professionals.
Young families receive little to no personal finance help. We all grow up to have jobs and money, yet our education system focuses on Shakespeare and Algebra. Even professional advice can be hard to come by, with the majority of the industry chasing retirees and existing wealth.

Joe Okaly's podcast is aiming to change this, providing personal financial advice geared specifically to professionals with young families. This podcast is dedicated to making life more enjoyable for young families, by hitting on the financial topics that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus from simply enjoying life.

Joseph P Okaly is a CFP Certified Financial Advisor who fits directly in with who this podcast is focused on - a young professional with a family. With over a decade of experience as an advisor, there is passion and knowledge to make a difference.

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC. TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.