Episode 7
Diversify, But With One Advisor! | Series 6.7
Spoiler alert: it doesn't mean having a bunch of accounts in a bunch of different places, making your life really difficult.
- So diversifying means that you're using a variety of different holdings across a variety of different areas. (04:24)
- ...this is why when we spread things out, we're doing this because we don't want all of our investments to be dependent on how one area of the market happens to perform. (06:22)
- If you have two people putting together separate first aid kits, "Hey, Bob, and hey, Jane, each of you guys design your own first aid kit and bring it on the ship with us", they're going to have no idea what the other person has already packed. (08:07)
Quote for the episode: "Do you have one advisor with a unified diversified strategy? Or do you have a lot of random first aid kits that may all just be packed with different brands of the same gauze?" (08:56)
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Transcript
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Joseph Okaly:catastrophic, versus insuring for the inconvenient. So if you
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Joseph Okaly:Today's episode is titled Diversify, But With One Advisor
Joseph Okaly:exclamation point, where we're going to cover why you've likely
Joseph Okaly:heard the word diversification, it gets thrown around a lot. But
Joseph Okaly:what it actually means and the best way to go about doing it in
Joseph Okaly:my opinion, and the spoiler alert is it does not mean having
Joseph Okaly:a bunch of accounts in a bunch of different places and making
Joseph Okaly:your life really difficult. The goal for today's episode then is
Joseph Okaly:for you to be able to look at what you have now and say, you
Joseph Okaly:know, "hey, I'm spread out in a way that really reduces my
Joseph Okaly:investment risk". Or "hey, now I see I just have a bunch of
Joseph Okaly:similar stuff, but in a lot of different places, making my life
Joseph Okaly:unnecessarily difficult, while maybe not likely reducing much
Joseph Okaly:of my investment risk". So going back to our fun nautical
Joseph Okaly:examples, which I know everybody loves, we obviously need to pack
Joseph Okaly:a lot of different things on this ship for this trip that
Joseph Okaly:we're going on. And one of those items that any ship needs, if
Joseph Okaly:So diversifying means that you're using a variety of
Joseph Okaly:it's going out into the middle of the ocean by itself would be
Joseph Okaly:a first aid kit. Now we probably are going to pack it with a
Joseph Okaly:variety of medical items, right? So maybe something for colds,
Joseph Okaly:maybe some medicine that helps with a fever or something to
Joseph Okaly:clean cuts, bandages, you know, so on and so forth all different
Joseph Okaly:things. We don't know what we may need so we are going to
Joseph Okaly:bring a variety of items to reduce the risk of not having
Joseph Okaly:something that we may need available if something happened.
Joseph Okaly:We are essentially diversifying our first aid kit, spreading out
Joseph Okaly:the types of things we are bringing. What we wouldn't do is
Joseph Okaly:bring 10 first aid kits, but pack them all only with gauze.
Joseph Okaly:We would have 10 boxes only with gauze that would not reduce the
Joseph Okaly:different holdings across a variety of different areas.
Joseph Okaly:risk for our potential medical needs. If we have a cut that
Joseph Okaly:There are small companies out there, large companies, mid
Joseph Okaly:needs to be cleaned out, every single first aid kit will not be
Joseph Okaly:sized companies, US companies, foreign companies, corporate
Joseph Okaly:bonds, government bonds, and many many more that you keep
Joseph Okaly:helpful because none of them have anything to clean out a
Joseph Okaly:breaking it down into. So if you have Apple stock with advisor
Joseph Okaly:cut. What many people think when it comes to investments is that
Joseph Okaly:one and more Apple stock with advisor two you haven't
Joseph Okaly:they need a lot of different first aid kits, a lot of
Joseph Okaly:diversified yourself at all. You've just made things more
Joseph Okaly:complicated. You have two accounts, but you are not at all
Joseph Okaly:different accounts with different people, and they don't
Joseph Okaly:any more diversified as if you had all that Apple stock with
Joseph Okaly:spend enough time making sure that all of those medical kits
Joseph Okaly:one account.
Joseph Okaly:Now, sometimes this can be hard to see, because instead of Apple
Joseph Okaly:or all those first aid kits that they took all that time to
Joseph Okaly:stock, maybe advisor one has the ABC large growth fund, and
Joseph Okaly:advisor two might have the 123 large growth fund. She may say,
Joseph Okaly:create aren't all just packed with very very similar gauze.
Joseph Okaly:"hey, you know, I have two different funds, so I must be
Joseph Okaly:spread out. I must be diversified". If both of those
Joseph Okaly:funds though are large growth funds, just from different
Joseph Okaly:companies, then studies have shown that over 90% of the
Joseph Okaly:returns will likely just overlap because they're in the same
Joseph Okaly:categories. And the most famous of those was called the Brinson
Joseph Okaly:study, but yea most of the return is just due to what area
Joseph Okaly:of the market you tend to be in. If one goes up, in this example
Joseph Okaly:of ABC fund goes up, then 123 is very likely to go up as well. If
Joseph Okaly:ABC fund goes down, then 123 fund is again very, very likely
Joseph Okaly:to do the same thing, because they're in the same area of the
Joseph Okaly:market, large growth type companies. Again, it may feel
Joseph Okaly:like you're talking to two people, it may feel like you
Joseph Okaly:have two, you know, differently titled funds, so you just, you
Joseph Okaly:know, you must be spread out and diversified. But in reality, if
Joseph Okaly:that one area does terribly, you will also do terribly, because
Joseph Okaly:all your eggs are in that same large growth basket. And this is
Joseph Okaly:why you know, when we diversify, this is why when we spread
Joseph Okaly:things out, we're doing this because we don't want all of our
Joseph Okaly:investments to be dependent on how one area of the market
Joseph Okaly:happens to perform.
Joseph Okaly:Now I totally get the traditional way of thinking, you
Joseph Okaly:know, hey, I don't want all my money with this one guy or gal,
Joseph Okaly:because what if they're not on the up and up and I may, you
Joseph Okaly:know, lose it all I see stuff on TV. I watch movies, things like
Joseph Okaly:that. You know, investments are something that no one is really
Joseph Okaly:taught about in school. So it's an unknown, which I've talked
Joseph Okaly:about before, and unknowns are scary. And so I totally
Joseph Okaly:understand that. If the advisor though is following a
Joseph Okaly:diversified strategy, so spreading your money out in
Joseph Okaly:different areas all the time, you know, not trying to time the
Joseph Okaly:market, then it's a kind of a bit of a different story, in my
Joseph Okaly:opinion. A diversified portfolio then would be spread out among
Joseph Okaly:10 to 15 different funds, let's say. And each one of those funds
Joseph Okaly:might be comprised of a few 1000 holdings. So overall, you could
Joseph Okaly:have a few 1000 holdings that make up your portfolio. So what
Joseph Okaly:that means is to lose it all would require all of those
Joseph Okaly:holdings to simultaneously go out of business or become
Joseph Okaly:worthless. So you can kind of see the difference between
Joseph Okaly:having one advisor in the traditional sense, that's buying
Joseph Okaly:or selling and dabbling in a couple of individual stocks,
Joseph Okaly:versus an advisor that is spreading your money over, you
Joseph Okaly:know, a variety of different funds, and funds that each have
Joseph Okaly:several 100, or in some cases 1000s of holdings. So it's a
Joseph Okaly:very different scenario when you compare those two things.
Joseph Okaly:In order to actually implement this though, let's say we're on
Joseph Okaly:board with a diversified strategy, which I hope you are,
Joseph Okaly:you really need to be using one advisor again, in my opinion.
Joseph Okaly:Let's go back to our first aid kit example. If you have two
Joseph Okaly:people putting together separate first aid kits, Hey, Bob, and
Joseph Okaly:hey, Jane, each of you guys design your own first aid kit
Joseph Okaly:and bring it on the ship with us, they're going to have no
Joseph Okaly:idea what the other person has already packed. Did the other
Joseph Okaly:person already pack a bunch of gauze or extra cold medicine or
Joseph Okaly:whatever else? So having one person in charge of the first
Joseph Okaly:aid kit means that one person now has enough information to
Joseph Okaly:make sure that the first aid kit is well diversified. You know,
Joseph Okaly:we often say having two advisors is like having two dentists. And
Joseph Okaly:again, in our opinion, you don't have one dentist for the top of
Joseph Okaly:your mouth and one for the bottom. You have one dentist and
Joseph Okaly:make sure your whole mouth is in order. So take a look at what
Joseph Okaly:you have right now when it comes to investments. And remember the
Joseph Okaly:goal for today. Do you have one advisor with a unified
Joseph Okaly:diversified strategy? Or do you have a lot of random first aid
Joseph Okaly:kits that may all just be packed with different brands of the
Joseph Okaly:same gauze?
Joseph Okaly:Thanks as always for tuning in today and join us for next
Joseph Okaly:week's episode, which is the Series Recap. So this is the
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